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Offline nzoTopic starter

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LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« on: November 07, 2011, 09:56:51 pm »
Hi all,

I have a number of LM317T's stamped with the letters 'SGS'.

Looking at the front of the chip, there is a dot above the mid lead of the 3 leads. What the dot signifies I don't know. I've had no luck finding a datasheet for the SGS chip.

On National Semicon's datasheet the pinouts for an  LM317T are, from left to right:

L=adjust, Mid=Vout, R=Vin.

How likely is it that my SGS LM317T pinouts will be in the same order?

Thanks.
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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 10:03:40 pm »
All LM317 regulators have the same pinout. I think the dot is just a leftover from the molding process.
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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 10:08:00 pm »
They are generally the same pinout unless it is a special version, which would be marked differently from the standard part.

Here's the datasheet for the SGS brand:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/L/M/3/1/LM317T.shtml

Datasheet catalog is a good site for generic IC's because it shows datasheets for multiple manufacturers on the same page.

UPDATE: it seems like SGS Thompson was just ST's name back in late 80's, so just get ST's datasheet.
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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 12:50:53 am »
Thanks tekfan and ivan747. Good find!
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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 02:19:10 am »
Note that the negative regulator counterpart, LM337, has a different pinout.
 

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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 02:40:57 am »
Note that the negative regulator counterpart, LM337, has a different pinout.

The same goes for the 78xx series and the 79xx series. It once ruined one of my projects.
 

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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 03:48:29 am »
All LM317s should have the same pinout, but a corresponding negative regulator will typically have two pins switched around. LM337 for example. A while back I destroyed one by hooking it up wrong assuming it had the same pinout as a 317.
 

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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 04:22:07 am »
Ha ha, yeah, probably everyone has ruined something by making that assumption!  You can include me in that club, too   ;)
 

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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 08:51:48 am »
I think that everybody was baffled the first time he looked at the different pin-out of 78 and 79 series regulators,  but in fact it is the same:
pin 1 is the most positive  (input for 78, ground for 79)
pin 2 is the most negative (ground for 78, input for 79)
pin 3 is the intermediate  (output for both).

In effect, sometime if you solder the wrong one, it will not be destroyed... ;D

Cannot find the same logic in LM317 / 337, but I believe it is due to the pass transistor being connected to the metal tab for better heat spread.

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Re: LM317T pinouts on TO-220 packages the same across manufacturers?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 12:40:31 pm »
The various components in an IC are isolated from the substrate by p-n junctions, for correct operation all of these junctions must be reverse biased, hence the substrate must be connected to the most negative voltage seen by the IC. Complete isolation can be achieved but this requires more area on the chip.
For the TO220 package the substrate is mounted on the tab (centre pin) which must therefore be connected to the most negative voltage. (The adjust pin uses the more complex isolation.)
Of course,  as has been mentioned, heat is extracted via the substrate which must be in thermal as well as electrical contact with the tab.

There is no constraint on the other two pins, for the LM317T / LM337T pin 1 was chosen as the adjust pin.

Jim
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