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[GEuser]

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[XOIIO]

My god...

Someone uses bing?

[HackedFridgeMagnet]

Yeah I do occasionally if the google search "paid for" results seem to dominate, and occasionally it seems to be useful.

I am also glad it is there as a complete monopoly has obvious bad consequences.

[mc]

It's actually MS having a go at google, as google do scan your email/web searches so they can deliver targetted marketting.

People love to criticise MS, however in privacy stakes, IMO google is far scarier.

[tjb1]

I should buy stock in Alcoa.

[bwat]

My god...

Someone uses bing?

Loads of people use BING because Bing Is Not Google. I use it fairly often.

I should buy stock in Alcoa.

No you misheard, blue horseshoe likes Anacott Steel.

[tjb1]

My god...

Someone uses bing?

Loads of people use BING because Bing Is Not Google. I use it fairly often.

I should buy stock in Alcoa.

No you misheard, blue horseshoe likes Anacott Steel.

Yeah, I don't think you get it but thanks for raising the stock price!

[sacherjj]

If you are concerned about what people are dong with your data (and I agree that Google is still worse than MS in this regard), use something like duckduckgo.com for search.

I run into problems with Google all the time with giving me what I already saw.  The prior search bias is a big problem for finding things you want.

[Stray Electron]

Yeah I do occasionally if the google search "paid for" results seem to dominate, and occasionally it seems to be useful.

   If you'll install Firefox, there's an add-on for it called Grease Monkey and there's a Java-script for that that will allow you to block those spamming Google hits.  You can't block the PAID Google ads but you can block those sites that pop up in EVERY Google search.  For a short time Google even offered a block feature but they've dropped it. Also it was limited to 500 sites and that wasn't nearly enough!

[AlfBaz]

Google pisses me off for uncommon searches. If I put 2 or three keywords as part of my search I have to skip to the 2nd or 3rd page before I find hits that contain all three, the first or second page contain noting but irrelevant crap!

[HackedFridgeMagnet]

Yeah I run grease monkey, Google search would be a complete PITA without it.
It's those redirects and the fact that the results don't actually give you a pasteable link without it.

[Rick Law]

In my view, Google long ago transitioned from "Do no Evil" to "Do anything, just don't get caught..."

It is now in another transition: "Don't worry about getting caught as long as the legal cost for it is already in the approved budget..."

Too bad so many of my system backup images already have Chrome in it.  I will have to go back so far in my restores to find one without this parasite.

[miguelvp]

I use altavista... oh wait, never mind memory lapse from 20 years ago.

[AlfBaz]

I use altavista... oh wait, never mind memory lapse from 20 years ago.

Bitcrawler was another classic

[corrado33]

You know you guys can click on "Worldwide" results to temporarily circumvent your personal results?

I also don't know what you're complaining about. I use google (search) everyday and 90% of the time the site I want pops up on the first page. That other 10% I need to click the worldwide results to get anything useful.

However, on my computers I do run "Personal Blocklist" (a chrome extension) that blocks out sites like "wiki.answers.com" because they pop up EVERY FREAKING TIME and they require 5-10 clicks to simply get the answer that you want.

Also, this may be internet lore, but didn't Bing get caught using Google's algorithm in the past?

I took the Bing challenge. Bing lost. I think google's doing some good things and people like to hate them just to be different. I am in no way a google fanboy (I have an iPhone), I've just found that their search works the best for me.

[XOIIO]

You know you guys can click on "Worldwide" results to temporarily circumvent your personal results?

I also don't know what you're complaining about. I use google (search) everyday and 90% of the time the site I want pops up on the first page. That other 10% I need to click the worldwide results to get anything useful.

However, on my computers I do run "Personal Blocklist" (a chrome extension) that blocks out sites like "wiki.answers.com" because they pop up EVERY FREAKING TIME and they require 5-10 clicks to simply get the answer that you want.

Also, this may be internet lore, but didn't Bing get caught using Google's algorithm in the past?

I took the Bing challenge. Bing lost. I think google's doing some good things and people like to hate them just to be different. I am in no way a google fanboy (I have an iPhone), I've just found that their search works the best for me.

Apparently they just copied google.

http://gizmodo.com/5748843/google-caught-bing-stealing-its-search-results

edit: better one http://googleblog.blogspot.ca/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html

[Rigby]

The algorithms that Bing and Google use require input from users in order to rank results. 

Bing won't get really good until lots of people use it, and lots of people won't use Bing until the results get really good.  Catch-22.

I use Bing once in a while just to give it some input.  Each time I use it I notice it getting better, slightly, with less nonsense on the first page of results.  Bing has much improved.

[zapta]

Google pisses me off for uncommon searches. If I put 2 or three keywords as part of my search I have to skip to the 2nd or 3rd page before I find hits that contain all three, the first or second page contain noting but irrelevant crap!

Do you have an example?

[mamalala]

"Privacy — As part of our ongoing commitment to respecting your privacy, we have updated the Microsoft Services Agreement to state that we do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls, or voice mail to target advertising to you. Nor do we use your documents, photos, or other personal files to target advertising to you."

To me this sounds like a classic overly-specific statement. They don't just say "we don't snoop through your eMail/chat/video calls/ voicemail at all", but instead speficially talk only about not snooping through it to target advertising. You can see such overly-specific statements very frequently from politicians, law-enforcement agencies, intelligence agencies, etc. Whenever there is some reason for concern about something in general, they are quick to make a statement in such a way that it is extremely specific about one aspect of the issue only, leaving enough room to later be able to say "well, but we did not deny/confirm that other aspect!".

Greetings,

Chris

[opty]

What is not surprising Bing is much better in searching for MSFT related stuff... (MSDN, etc.)

And it is not (yet?) that 'rich' in ads; I have impression that google gets worse each day I use it.

[XOIIO]

What is not surprising Bing is much better in searching for MSFT related stuff... (MSDN, etc.)

And it is not (yet?) that 'rich' in ads; I have impression that google gets worse each day I use it.

Maybe you are making it worse 

[dannyf]

Google is a nice lesson for the naive anti-Microsoft crowd who too eagerly bought into this -do no evil- mkting.

[AlfBaz]

Google pisses me off for uncommon searches. If I put 2 or three keywords as part of my search I have to skip to the 2nd or 3rd page before I find hits that contain all three, the first or second page contain noting but irrelevant crap!

Do you have an example?

Can't think of one at the moment but often times you'll click on a hit do a ctrl+f on that page with one of your search terms and it's no where to be found. I remember once even "viewing source" and searching that with no results.

I've also found where they show results with one of your search terms printed at the end crossed out and you have to scroll down or go to the next page before they show you hits with all terms

[corrado33]

Can't think of one at the moment but often times you'll click on a hit do a ctrl+f on that page with one of your search terms and it's no where to be found. I remember once even "viewing source" and searching that with no results.

I've also found where they show results with one of your search terms printed at the end crossed out and you have to scroll down or go to the next page before they show you hits with all terms

I think you can circumvent this by using words like AND and OR. If a word is crossed out it means that google didn't find any results with ALL of your words, and had to get rid of one of them to come up with any relevant results. (It says all of this at the top of the results page.)

[AlfBaz]

I think you can circumvent this by using words like AND and OR. If a word is crossed out it means that google didn't find any results with ALL of your words, and had to get rid of one of them to come up with any relevant results. (It says all of this at the top of the results page.)

Relevant to who? Their marketing department?

As I explained all search terms appear eventually (if they exist)

edit: I try to add extra search terms to narrow my results