Together United For A New Internet!

[Justin567]

So I Will just throw it out there LETS MAKE A NEW INTERNET! We Need A new one, Just LOOK at what they are doing to us!! http://www.extremetech.com/computing/189539-the-great-internet-slowdown-join-tomorrows-protest-against-the-fccs-new-net-neutrality-rules

Just Some Quotes!  ...Tomorrow, September 10, will mark the first great Internet Slowdown... ...where some websites load more slowly than others if you don’t pay your ISP some extra money...

Do You Want this? Do you want to Try To Stop It? What are the chances that people standing up will do ANYTHING to these Big, Powerful, Rich, Successful, "web’s largest companies"?!? Really you think you can do something to stop them?

So who wants to start Over!? Yeah, We will most likely start at 56k, We will need to make new sites, And we Will need servers! But! But! We CAN Do It! Heck I can help with TWO of the problems already, I am one of an ENTIRE class at my school learning to make websites I KNOW that I can Get a couple of them to help us out and make sites, And Yeah I am only 16 But I DO have 10 UNUSED SERVERS! That is 40 CORES Of processing power, I Have 1800 FEET OF Fiber-Optic Cable, Heck Ya I am a Computer Geek! And I LOVE it!

So Who Is With Me? We CAN Do It!! We Will all go down in history FAMOUS!! WE WILL!!

"Lets Make A New One"

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[Monkeh]

 

Good luck with that.

[Justin567]

I Will try to be on the chat often if you want to chat(I live in the USA to try to give you a timezone idea)

[eurofox]

I suppose you are connected with a device like the picture in attachment. 

I don't complain about speed, I can download 1GB in 1 minute 

[Justin567]

The problem is not speed, I Mean Just Look At The Top Link!!

[Alex30]

Hahaha, is this a joke? 

[miguelvp]

Change provider and problem solved, give money to who treats you better. Not all internet providers are cable companies.

[true]

Change provider and problem solved, give money to who treats you better. Not all internet providers are cable companies.

Your flag shows that you are in the US. In that case, for high speed internet, you should very well know that sometimes the only provider is the cable company, or the phone company, or some unwritten agreement between the two.

[miguelvp]

Change provider and problem solved, give money to who treats you better. Not all internet providers are cable companies.

Your flag shows that you are in the US. In that case, for high speed internet, you should very well know that sometimes the only provider is the cable company, or the phone company, or some unwritten agreement between the two.

Your flag shows that you are in the US as well, in that case you should know that those supposed unwritten agreements will just open the doors to competition like say Google Fiber perhaps? and they will just take over.

Sure they will try to stop small towns for trying to provide cheap fast internet. But not much they can do

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/aug/29/us-telecoms-fcc-block-high-speed-internet-chattanooga

Edit: I know, the guardian is not the best of sources

[coppice]

I don't complain about speed, I can download 1GB in 1 minute 

I don't think I could stand going back to that kind of slow throughput. 

[Alex Eisenhut]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2

 

[eurofox]

I don't complain about speed, I can download 1GB in 1 minute 

I don't think I could stand going back to that kind of slow throughput. 

One G Byte not Bit, this is not slow for an home connection 

[miguelvp]

I don't complain about speed, I can download 1GB in 1 minute 

I don't think I could stand going back to that kind of slow throughput. 

One G Byte not Bit, this is not slow for an home connection 

In a minute! not in a second thats about 133Mbps, Still not bad

[Rerouter]

If someone could crack a method for easily and cheaply doing multiple point to point and secure connections between wireless devices over large distances, you could remove most of the need short of the international back-ends and rural areas, for ISP's,

This would allow essntially free to use local internet, but congestion and speed problems would be interesting to see how they could be overcome,

[Cside]

Dont fight for net neutrality. You may win today but you will ultimately fail.
Fight the system. Profit based capitalism lobbying politicians is the cause we all know it but we know we are all guilty in some way of being seduced by it so we dont admit it.

anyway win that war, and you solve many of todays woes.

 

[Alex30]

Yes, we know that net neutrality is terrible, but proposing to set up your own net 2.0 with a couple of server boxes is quite funny

[Justin567]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2

 

I knew about the internet 2 BUT it is only for universitys collages and the government

NOT the public

[miguelvp]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2

 

I knew about the internet 2 BUT it is only for universitys collages and the government

NOT the public

So was internet 1

In any event, the internet was designed to have priority bits to begin with, it was never intended to be free. Takes money for adding infrastructure and maintenance cost.

[miguelvp]

Well, in the US little is government owned, if any of it, not sure how much of ARPANET carries data nowadays.

According to wikipedia, current Tier 1 carriers are:
Level 3 Communications, TeliaSonera International Carrier, CenturyLink, Vodafone, Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T Corporation

They are not subsidized here, maybe where you are at, and I don't ever recall the government spending in internet infrastructure using taxpayer's money (unless it's the NSA I guess but that's a total different story).

[Biff383]

  Best I can do now for speed is going thru wireless... (sprint). It sucks but is still better then DSL. I wish I could get cable. Had it loved it ....moved . And I live within 5 miles of 250000 people or more.

[miguelvp]

They are multinationals, so who really knows who owns them.

Anyways, that wasn't your question and yes I could look it up to see if foreign money is in the internet infrastructure, I'm pretty sure it is but I'm not going to even bother to look because you will have some other objection later about something else and there will be no end.

Edit: changed my mind because I already did answer it before:

Tier 1 US:
Sweden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeliaSonera_International_Carrier

British
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodafone

[eneuro]

So was internet 1

There are many private internets by using wiki: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network[/url] .
Exchange true random bits (TRNG) between a few members and they can make very secure VPNs using existing network, so there are many internets for years 

[eurofox]

There is as well an "hidden" internet face that you cannot access with google and similar search engines 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web

[miguelvp]

Both TCP and UDP have a priority flag and a priority pointer that can be used to monetize speed. It never has been used as far as I know but I bet hardware will respect it since it's part of the protocol.

Edit: Why is this thread under projects anyways?

[Monkeh]

Edit: Why is this thread under projects anyways?

Because the kid is under the mistaken impression that by posting in a few forums he can gather the insane funding and technical knowledge required to start his own internet.