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Offline strykerTopic starter

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Transformer marking: T21150W25
« on: September 25, 2016, 01:50:20 am »
Hi,

I have a power supply with a transformer that appears to have an internal short.  There's a sticker on the top that says T21150W25 but that's not coming up as a part at any of the usual suspects, nor more broadly in a google search.  I'm hoping it gives a hint to its characteristics so I can find a swap-in replacement.  It's in a 28V power supply for a Waeco fridge.  Waeco's distributor wasn't able to provide a schematic so hoping this code is a hint.  Does it look like a manufacturer code you recognise?

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 09:01:44 am »
Picture of the transformer will help as well. Is it a small potted transformer soldered to the board, running off the mains direct, or part of a SMPS on the board.
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 02:30:57 pm »
Here's a picture of the transformer.  Hope this helps.

I've borrowed a working example of the power supply and the resistance between the 4 terminals on the transformer are hugely different.  It also means if we can't identify this from the marking I'll be able to pop the working one off the PCB and test the ratio that way.
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 03:39:52 pm »
99 percent likely the transformer is fine, but the SMPS controller to the right ( in the pic) has a shorted power transistor, a blown SMPS controller IC, 2 or more failed resistors on the board and at least 2 failed electrolytic capacitors, along with a blown fuse or fusible resistor and a shorted bridge rectifier diode.
 
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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 09:54:54 pm »
Thanks for the tip.  I have replaced one electrolytic cap that was looking second hand.  Will revisit the high voltage side closer as I can compare with the working one. 
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 04:26:01 pm »
Hi everyone...same power supply same transformer same problem....did you manage to fix it?
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 10:27:40 pm »
Hi everyone...same power supply same transformer same problem....did you manage to fix it?
It got pushed aside this week for other projects.  Hoping to get some time on it over the weekend.  For the record it's a Waeco Mobitronic MPS-50A, which also goes by the brand name Waeco Coolpower it seems.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2016, 10:31:24 pm by stryker »
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2016, 05:02:52 am »
As per the tips poste by @SeanB,
  • Removed the heatsink, tested all the resistors and they measure correctly. 
  • Removed the large electrolytic I'd not yet replaced and it tests fine also on an LC meter. 
  • There was some brown sticky dust under a polyester 22nF capacitor (visible to the left of the power MOSFET in front of the transformer in the attached image) and it's measuring only 35pF.  I don't have anything rated higher than 100V in the parts bin so will have to get one of those. 
  • IRFPC50 MOSFET is shorted out
  • KBL406G bridge rectifier is also shorted
So thanks @SeanB most of what you predicted came to be true.  I have some parts to source and I'll let you know how I go.

Cheers, Geoff
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2016, 07:12:21 am »
Sorry 'bout the long break between updates.  I finally got the parts today, and can confirm that's sorted it.

Thanks again @SeanB.
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 08:22:08 am »
Hopefully you replaced that capacitor with a class X2 rated one, as it needs a pulse rating to survive long term. Ordinary polyester film capacitors will not last long there, as the high current spikes as the main transistor turns off has to be absorbed by them, and then dumped as heat in the resistor during the next switch cycle. 630V rated ones are probably the only ones that will survive as they use a thicker foil and film.
 
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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2020, 10:21:01 pm »
Please...  one Photo   by R18 - komponent   :(  :(...   Unfortunately, it burned down.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2020, 10:40:04 pm by ELEKTRO1991 »
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2023, 02:31:20 pm »
Please...  one Photo   by R18 - komponent   :(  :(...   Unfortunately, it burned down.
Sorry I don't normally have these about, and I know this question was asked a long time ago - but my brother has just dropped both his back to me to repair after they've both been caught out in the rain again.
In case it helps anyone else, for reference R18 is 510 Ohms.
Geoff
 

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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2024, 01:55:07 pm »
Do you happen to have a picture of the R13 resistor?  It's on the same side as the big Cap.
Mine is blown and trying to work out the colours/ohms.
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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2024, 02:12:54 pm »
You're in luck @foggs. If nobody else has one handy, my brother has two of these failed that I'll have here for repairs again soon.
 
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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2024, 05:56:33 am »
Hi @foggs

R13 is 1k; The board I'm reading from is marked PC21150 Rev 1.6



Cheers! Geoff
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Re: Transformer marking: T21150W25
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2024, 10:02:32 am »
Too good!
Thanks so much Geoff, very appreciated for taking the time and effort.
 
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